Emily Merrell  00:00

Hey, my name is Emily Merrell. I’m a taco loving people connector. And I’m obsessed with playing the name game, and all things networking. I’m the founder of secondary society, a female focused networking community, as well as a business coach for female business owners passionate about bringing their business to the next level with the help of events, community and connections. I crave deep conversations, and I’m continuously curious to see what makes people tick. And I’m invested in uncovering their stories with some life lessons along the way. This podcast is aimed to inspire and educate as you tackle your busy day to join the conversation and tune in for the second degree podcast. I’m your host, Emily and today I’m so excited to have my friend Arielle Hoffman. She’s a health coach for female leaders and just an overall amazing human. Welcome to the

 

Ariel Hoffman  00:56

show. Thanks for having me, Emily. I love

 

Emily Merrell  01:00

you just got dressed up for the show. And I appreciate that.

 

Ariel Hoffman  01:03

Well, I know about that. 

 

Emily Merrell  01:06

You like dressed up you look together. I

 

Ariel Hoffman  01:08

look like I don’t know. Like I had a roll in the hay or something. Which is basically always feel like that as moms, like, rarely feel together.

 

01:18

I will.

 

Emily Merrell  01:19

I was just telling you, I had a late night with my 75 year old aunt last night to a steak house. And that was my my wild and crazy night out. So you have till 10am 10am Wow. 10pm. Can you imagine just like we went to the club. That’s a lot for me on the school night now. Do you feel?

 

Ariel Hoffman  01:42

Oh, yeah. I mean, I have an almost four year old and oftentimes when we go out on the weekends with our friends, and it like hits eight o’clock, I’m always like, wow, what’s it like to stay out? past eight o’clock? Because usually that’s the time we’re like, heading home. You know, I know. It’s just a phase. And I know one day we’ll probably have later nights again. But oh, yeah, I turned into a pumpkin at like, eight, eight. Yeah.

 

Emily Merrell  02:11

Going to bed at nine 930. And it’s glorious. And last week, my sister Taylor Swift was in town, and did not have Taylor Swift concert tickets. But she wanted to go to like the pre tailor dance party that this one bar was sponsoring. And I was like, of course, it’s your birthday week, I’ll do anything about the ticket, got the ticket, looked at the ticket. And it started at 9pm. And all day, I kid you not, I was just dreading going dancing at 9pm. Like I had to put makeup on at a shower like this is a lot. And I have to say it at 11 I was the most fun I’ve had in such a long time. I burned like double my workout, coat, calories or whatnot on my watch, just from dancing and had blisters on my feet and more heels. And it was really nice to reconnect with that side of myself. I was exhausted the next day, but so good for you. I mean,

 

Ariel Hoffman  03:16

I’m glad you had that kind of fun. It’s good to remind ourselves that we can still do it sometimes.

 

Emily Merrell  03:23

Times. Well, speaking of fun, you let a very fun career.

 

Ariel Hoffman  03:29

Oh, okay. Do you think 

 

Emily Merrell  03:32

you don’t think so? Alright, so

 

Ariel Hoffman  03:34

anyone phrase it that way? So I love that

 

Emily Merrell  03:40

on the outside your career as looked glamorous and seductive. So can you tell us about the beginning of your fitness and dance career? Starting with? I love the beginning. Let’s start at the beginning.

 

Ariel Hoffman  03:56

Beginning well, how far back do you want to go? I

 

Emily Merrell  03:59

was one and I was my mama.

 

Ariel Hoffman  04:04

No, I’ll just start from here, which is I grew up as a competitive figure skater and a ballet dancer. And so being an athlete has been a part of me my entire life. Um, and, you know, I, when I was training for the Olympics, for figure skating, I small Fun fact, I defeated Michelle Kwan in junior nationals when I was like 12 or something like that. So it was right. She kind of had her rise is amazing. But anyway, obviously I didn’t go to the Olympics, or when the Olympics but you know, it was a very rigorous sport. And I realized at one point that I just love to dance more. And so I ended up pursuing that and Even though I went to school for architecture, I graduated and then decided to move to New York to pursue dancing, and to pursue, pursue Broadway and to do that whole thing. So I didn’t know anybody in New York, I just bought a plane ticket, and that I had to find myself and do all that and find roommates and did the whole thing. Yeah, and I moved there. And then, you know, fast forward, I ended up getting an agent as a dancer and performer does. And they started sending me out a lot on fitness gigs. And so I started booking a lot of fitness jobs, one of which, if you don’t know who Shaun T is, he is one of the most successful people in fitness through Beachbody. He has all these programs out. And I worked with him on several of his video workouts. So if you’ve ever heard of insanity, I’m in those videos. And he’s a wonderful person. He’s one of my good friends and a mentor. And he actually, you know, I think working with him sparked this fuel in me to be like, Hmm, I wonder if I could like teach fitness classes instead of wait tables to support my dancing. And so I did, I ended up becoming a personal trainer. And then that led me into boutique fitness when it was just on its rise. And so yeah, I was in boutique fitness, I trained celebrities, I went all over the world, I think that’s maybe where you get the glamour part from. And it did, it felt really glamorous here and there. And it was it was really exciting. And then fast forward, I had gotten really badly injured. And I had to address it, it was my hip. And it really kind of changed my path actually did change my path, I had to reassess my value and what I brought to the world because I was faced with an injury that I had a full prognosis for it wasn’t that, but just the nature of the business I was in, you know, what do I do if my body’s broken, and I can’t rely on that to help people and to do what I do. And so I started looking into how else I could help other people and help my clients. And I realized that, you know, through nutrition and health coaching, I could help them in a deeper way. And a more meaningful way, you know, and really transform them, their lifestyle, not just their bodies, even though that was something that did occur. It just, it felt really rewarding to be able to bring all of those skills together. And so now that’s what I do. So now I’m a health coach, and I combine all of my knowledge and my background of fitness with nutrition, and lifestyle behavior to transform lives.

 

Emily Merrell  08:23

I have many questions. I don’t even know where to begin. My first question with you is, how did you get into figure skating? 

 

Ariel Hoffman  08:31

Oh, that’s a funny story. I went to a birthday party when I was five. And apparently I didn’t want to leave the ice. And my mother said, Oh, she likes this. I’ll put her in skating lessons. And then I started in skating lessons. I was also an only child. And my mother put me if she she saw an interest that I had, it was like, oh, let’s put her in these lessons. And like, let’s just see where this takes our you know, so I mean, as a kid, I was trying everything I was in gymnastics. Yeah. I was actually in roller skating and ice skating and piano and like all these different activities. And my mother actually jokes now because she says that when she would explain what activities she had to cart her child to people thought she was speaking about multiple children. And it was just me. I don’t know I just had to pack schedule from the very beginning, I guess. But I didn’t hate it. And I really loved it. And yeah, you couldn’t get me off the ice. I was really, really in love with it.

 

Emily Merrell  09:42

And did you grow up in a place where ice skating was popular and active community I always think of like Minnesota, so I’m going to make

 

Ariel Hoffman  09:51

no other than I grew up in the Bay Area. Okay, no, there’s no snow in the actual Bay area. So I I’m not really sure about that. But I was in an area where there were some really great and very well known figure skating coaches so and and figure skater so Brian Boitano used to train in the same rank as him and Cristiano Puccini, pretty glendo. And if you don’t know who those people are, that’s okay, go look them up. But I would train with them. Like every day when Brian was on the ice, like, you know, I was kid. And he’s really tall actually. And he jumps really high. And so when he was on the ice, like, all of us kids would just be against the wall, because we didn’t want to get run over. You know,

 

Emily Merrell  10:39

he was so good. And fun fact, I think I’ve shared this with you before, my stepdad worked in sports and stars on ice as one of his clients. Oh, no way. So growing up, I was in a figure skater. But I was always I was obsessed with figure skating. And I thought it was just they were so remarkable and so talented. And my embarrassing moment that like when I think about just brings me shame into my body was, I remember meeting Kristi Yamaguchi, and she was a teenager at the time to teenagers do they babysit to make extra money? And I think I like invited her to be our babysitter if she wanted to know like, she finally like skirted the issue. But my abs assumption. Yeah, I didn’t know how money worked. I didn’t know how she was being paid. I felt like she had bills to pay. Doesn’t she have time to babysit? Me?

 

Ariel Hoffman  11:36

Obviously, obviously missed out on that one

 

Emily Merrell  11:41

was all make us dinner. It’s fine. You don’t work hard. But yeah, so and I remember the other fun thing. I went to tick buttons house. And we went to his house and he has a partner who’s lovely named Dennis. And I didn’t know anyone at that time who was gay. And there was like one bedroom was this kind of like craft farm house. And I was like, but there’s only one bedroom. Where does Dennis asleep? And I think my I think I said that like in front of Dick button. And Dennis Yeah. Oh, he, I don’t know if they said like we share a bed or like he sleeps on my couch. I don’t remember the outcome. I just remember the big shameful dumb questions you ask is as children and

 

Ariel Hoffman  12:26

adults, maybe that’s really funny. But also very cool that you met Dick button as well.

 

Emily Merrell  12:32

Yeah, it’s very, it was very cool. There was a lot of Yeah, and actually, I

 

Ariel Hoffman  12:36

do have a really interesting story. So I would train, sometimes I would go different places in the summer to train this was more like my teenage years, a couple of summers, I came down to LA, which is where I live now. But there was another rink down here that people would, you know, train at, again, good coaches. And I remember one day, there were a group of us girls going on, like, a field trip somewhere after training. And I was changing the bathroom. And I remember this one girl coming in going, oh my gosh, Brad Pitt is here. And I was like, what? And so like, changed as fast as I could and go out. And he’s there’s like a big crowd of girls like around him. And every, you know, people were taking pictures with him and stuff. And I was the last one. And the security guard was like, No, sorry. That’s it. And I started walking away. And Brad tapped my shoulder and turned me around said no, we can fit in one more. Oh, my

 

Emily Merrell  13:41

God, and that is now in between Jesus and pictures of your kids on the

 

Ariel Hoffman  13:48

Yeah, and I still feel like I have the same kind of crush on him. Oh,

 

Emily Merrell  13:52

and you’re like, Oh, I’m not starstruck I live in LA. I’m cool. And then you there’s people you see and all of a sudden all said yeah, it just dissipates.

 

Ariel Hoffman  14:01

Yes, yeah.

 

Emily Merrell  14:02

I love that. Okay, so your mom really did a good job of fostering your, your, how do you say your creativity in terms of in your passion with skating and, and feeding it and and allowing you to blossom and see how it fell? And then how to dance fit into skating with such a competitive schedule like that.

 

Ariel Hoffman  14:23

So it’s so interesting, you asked that I mean, I was, again, like, at a young age, you just kind of start doing all these things. And then a certain point I became known as I was always so I was always doing ballet and skating simultaneously. And so one of the critiques I would get on the ice was that I was very elegant and that I had really good flexibility and I was graceful and all this kind of stuff, and that I really got from the ballet and so they enjoy urged me to keep doing it. And I wouldn’t, I would say I didn’t really love doing ballet until I was like 12 or 13. But yeah, I it was, it was always kind of this complement to the skating until one day, the ballet kind of in the dance took over, mainly because I realized I’m competitive. But I don’t do well under that kind of pressure. I mean, this is a whole other topic entirely. But, you know, yes, my passions were fostered. But I also think, you know, parents can put a lot of pressure on their children, and I was one of those. And so it just became very, like, you don’t do this in competition, you know, it became a battle and it just wasn’t fun anymore. And I didn’t want to do it. So dancing to me just felt more free. And I could compete more with myself rather than, you know, have everything on the line for like a four minute routine of your life. I mean, it’s a lot of pressure on a young child to mean a child. And so yeah, I just, I realized I really just didn’t want to do that anymore. Also, you know, I didn’t go to parties in high school, I didn’t even know what they were, I was very busy with these two things. And I started point two, I was like, I really just want to go to college and experience, like, real life, and what that’s like, and I could dance and go to college, but I couldn’t necessarily skate and go to college, like, those two didn’t really match up. A lot of

 

Emily Merrell  16:47

colleges don’t probably have competitive skating.

 

Ariel Hoffman  16:53

And also, if that kind of sport is very much like all or nothing, like you’re kind of pushed in direction of like, you’re either serious or not serious. Definitely. You are faced with that choice. And the minute you don’t really want to do it anymore, it’s time to move on. Because it’s like I said, it’s too much. It’s a different, a different path.

 

Emily Merrell  17:16

You know, when you were in college, you said you studied architecture? How did you did you think that you are going to continue dancing professionally? Or was dancing, something that was just filling, filling that void of what you desired?

 

Ariel Hoffman  17:34

I think it was the latter. I think I was trying to figure out what the hell I wanted to do. At that point, I didn’t really know. And I studied architecture, because it was creative, and technical. And I feel like those two parts of my brain work really well together. And so yeah, I think it was just everything was an experiment. It was like, let’s see if I like this and go from there. And then by the end of my college career, because dance had sort of been taking off, and I had been doing really well, I was with a company and somebody suggested, oh, you should go to New York and audition for fossi. And I’m like, Okay, so like I did, I think I took like a red eye and landed in New York again, like knowing nothing of the city. And just finding my way to the audition. I had no idea what it would be like, there were like, 600 girls there. And but I was bitten by the bug. And I was like, oh my god, I have to be here. And of course, I didn’t get it. But I was just really excited. And then I think I went home like that day after I was done. It was like a one day thing. And then I said, Oh, this is the kind of dancing I like like I love ballet. But man like jazz and theater. That’s a whole different world and took a couple classes in New York. Have you ever seen the movie center stage? Oh, my favorite movie forever? Yes. Okay, well, there’s one I used to dance with her. She used to take class. We all everybody takes classes. And so she would be in class sometimes. But there’s a scene in that movie where she’s in New York, and she goes by this jazz dance class. And she sees the guy that she kind of likes and he’s like the best ballet dancer. And she goes in and she tries this class and they like make her take her hair down. And she’s like, all of a sudden, so free and I’m like, Oh my God, I want to do that. And so like, I could take my hair down and do my hair down. What I know is like this whole new novelty. So anyway, that’s kind of what sparked that offer. That’s incredible. So

 

Emily Merrell  20:03

now I know it’s always fun to like reflect back on your life and the choices that you made like you could have left college and pursued architecture or you could have revisited skating or you could you know, there’s so many different choices, little micro choices that lead to where you are now. And you’re a mom, you have an almost for your, for your four year old. Wow, that was a hard thing for me that four year old. And when you think about your parents, and then being a parent, like how are you going to set it up for your your son to explore his passions? Have you thought about that? Um, well, yeah, a little bit.

 

Ariel Hoffman  20:42

I mean, he’s definitely gonna play sports. I’m sorry. Lost? Yes. I mean, my husband’s into sports, like, it’s gonna be. Yeah. But I mean, of course, it’ll be interesting to see what desires he develops. And I think, I think one of the most important things to recognize in a child is not just their talent, but how to foster their talent. So I feel like and what I mean by that is, you know, my mother was a single mother. And I think there was a lot of pressure, obviously, to do all of those things. And now I have a very different perspective, now that I’m a parent, how hard it is to be single parent. And, like, the kind of pressure I received, I just didn’t receive that, well, that was not the way to push me. And so I think it’s really important to know and recognize how your kids respond to different what’s the word I want to use, uh,

 

Emily Merrell  21:53

tactics, or

 

Ariel Hoffman  21:58

different, different ways to push them but in in, in ways that encourage their personality specifically, so they can flourish, I don’t think, you know, everyone’s this cookie cutter, type personality. Some people thrive under pressure really, really well. And others don’t others need more nurturing, and, like, just do the best you can type of thing. And then they compete against themselves. And it’s, it’s, then they’re able to succeed because they didn’t have the the external pressure that came from them, but also their pure passion and their pure adrenaline and that’s what fuels them. So I think that’s what I hope I recognize in my son is like, okay, he likes this thing. How can I? How can I foster him in this? As long as he really enjoys it, but not take the love away for it? Love of it for him? You know what I mean? We’re recording this

 

Emily Merrell  23:01

afternoon, guys. It’s yeah, a lot words. Exactly. I like that. I like that mentality. And that thought process of encouraging them, fostering it. Not letting I don’t know, it sounds like your mom never let you quit. I feel like my mom, let me quit everything way too quickly. She like nah. Okay, you don’t have to do it. And I’m like, why didn’t you make me do piano longer, or X, Y and Z longer? Like I, I gave up because I was bad. But I had just started so I was bad. And so yeah, I think there’s that that pain, that moment of pain before you get the game, and able to get through like the uncomfy poor parts of trying something new to get to something where it becomes more regular, which really reminds me of boutique fitness. Actually, I don’t know if this was the case, when you were sort of when you were working there and meeting people. But so many people are so intimidated. And I was so intimidated by it initially, like, oh my god, what if I’m bad? What if everyone else is judging me for being bad in this workout class? And then, you know, it took that one pusher friend who got me in, and I was bad the first time and then I was less bad the second time, and I knew where the weights were the third time and that I felt confident enough to invite another friend and start that process over again. Yeah, I think like being in community to work out is just such a such a fun thing to do. Or motivator.

 

Ariel Hoffman  24:36

It is I’m gonna reflect on what you just said. So the first thing is my mother did give me plenty of time choices to quit something. She just said quit one thing, you know, because I was exhausted. But I was like, No, I’m not quitting anything and Maybe that’s just my personality, because my personality is like, once I start something, I have to be the best at it. And I was actually, it was pointed out to me the other day how competitive I am. But it’s really more with myself, it’s like I have to, I don’t know, it’s a problem that I have to address. But the other thing is, with the sports, specifically that I was doing perfectionism was, was a thing that you strove for. And if you’re not perfect, you are nothing like that is you, I was told that, but that’s what you end up believing. And through my journey of all this, and by the way, that the type of coaching I do now is, you know, one, I can see the judgments that someone places on themselves right off the bat, and I always remind them, you know, or I’ll ask the question, like, you know, for you, like, why did you think you were gonna be bad? You know, because nobody else in the class, what people don’t realize when they get intimidated by going to some of these classes, or trying this new diet, or whatever, is no one is really paying attention to you. But we placed that on ourselves. And so my coaching, I really emphasize, like, I call it jumping off the judgment button, because, you know, clients will do exactly what you just said, and say, Well, I’m intimidated. And I don’t know if I can do it. And I’m like, But why who’s telling you, you have to do that? First of all, that’s you. And so it’s really about kind of changing this underlying mindset. And same thing with like, eating well, and obviously, I don’t have time to exercise. I don’t have time to do this. But some of that is very much self judging, and self judgment. And so one of the things I do is I really help people veer away from that. And once they’re able to let go of this self judgment, you know, someone will come to me and say, Oh, I was bad last week in my food, and I’m like, really? Tell me more? Who told you you were bad? You know, because I’m not I’m not sitting there with a whip saying, Oh, my God, you had a piece of cake and a pizza last week? Oh, my God, You’re terrible. No, I mean, that is that is our interpretation of, you know, being good versus bad. And it’s not your fault. It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault. It’s the way we we’ve been conditioned. And so part of this is and part of my coaching is, is breaking that conditioning. And And once people get past that, they can achieve a consistent fitness routine quite easily. And they can beat sugar quite easily. They can do all the things they don’t go on a diet again, because they don’t need to, because part of it is that judgment is now not there. They’re just simply making choices. And that’s really all it is, is okay, you want to be healthy. Okay, well, you know, you need to eat well, you know, you need to exercise. But what’s, what choices are you making? And why are you making those choices, and then once people understand themselves better, they can make better choices very easily. Amen to that.

 

Emily Merrell  28:22

So it sounds like you’ve basically been able to learn so much from your your experience your perfectionism reflect that back also to identify the our own unique perfectionist problems or obstacles that get in our way. And then like nurture and hold people where they’re at, yes, um, through getting center stage of their own life.

 

Ariel Hoffman  28:45

There you go, Oh, my gosh, that’s a good tagline. I know, it’s just getting

 

Emily Merrell  28:53

well, how can people find out more about working with you and taking your programs doing the one on ones all of the things? What’s the next step on that? Well,

 

Ariel Hoffman  29:05

the next step is getting in touch with me via my website, Arielle hoffman.com. They can also email me. So that’s probably the easiest way to get in touch. I work with people one on one. I do small groups, and I also do corporate packages and corporate teams. And yeah, and just let’s chat and find out more. I always want to find out more about other people as well. And it’s something that

 

Emily Merrell  29:33

people can work with you even if they don’t live in Los Angeles, correct?

 

Ariel Hoffman  29:37

Oh, yeah, everything I do is virtual. I would say 95% of my business is virtual. So amazing. And

 

Emily Merrell  29:45

so guys, if you want to look like a celebrity, and feel like a rockstar that’s that’s all I’ll say. I’ll leave it there. So Arielle, before we before we end for stuff, I love your website. I love your ins program. I love the marriage of family and fitness and it’s just incredible. But I love to ask my guests six questions. So are you ready? This is simply answer six best questions.

 

Ariel Hoffman  30:14

I have to do this fast, fast. Okay, wish me luck. All right. Okay,

 

Emily Merrell  30:18

here we go. So the first question is tell us an unknown fun fact about you?

 

Ariel Hoffman  30:25

Ah, well, I did say it earlier on, right up when I was 12. I think that’s a good one. And that goes, We’re gonna know that one now. It’s

 

Emily Merrell  30:37

everywhere. Everyone’s gonna be tweeting at Michelle Kwan that he was beaten by who would be a dream person to be connected with? I know you already met Brad Pitt. So think of one more person.

 

30:51

Michelle Obama.

 

Ariel Hoffman  30:53

How about to train her? Oh, that would be great. I think you would get along swimmingly. I feel like she’s my type of gal. It’s like, what are

 

Emily Merrell  31:03

her goals? What are her fitness goals? I have so many questions. She says she needs a fitness goal with her perfection.

 

Ariel Hoffman  31:09

I mean, I feel like she’s got a pretty good head on her shoulders. And she’s got, gosh, so much life experience that she doesn’t she wouldn’t take it so seriously. Yeah, no, but she takes her health seriously. And that’s what I care about. Those are the types of people I love working with too. And she would listen to me. Yeah.

 

Emily Merrell  31:34

Which is so nice. When you’re coaching someone that actually follows your advice.

 

Ariel Hoffman  31:38

Best. You’re like, wow,

 

Emily Merrell  31:41

the transformation came on session three. This

 

Ariel Hoffman  31:43

is amazing. You’re doing everything.

 

Emily Merrell  31:48

Great show are you currently watching and enjoying?

 

Ariel Hoffman  31:55

Oh my gosh.

 

Emily Merrell  31:57

I know. These are the hard questions is

 

Ariel Hoffman  32:00

really tough. Because well, I’m just going to reveal my guilty pleasure. Why not? Do it? You’re in a safe place. Bachelor and Bachelorette? I mean, it’s my Yeah, that’s my guilty.

 

Emily Merrell  32:13

I’m surprised you never tried out for it. I feel like I feel like there’s like a rational Rando. I don’t know. If you

 

Ariel Hoffman  32:22

would be making fun. No.

 

Emily Merrell  32:25

I feel like it’s like a rite of passage in LA or New York. Like I know more.

 

Ariel Hoffman  32:29

You apply for it. Oh, cuz I I can’t touch my toes.

 

Emily Merrell  32:36

I feel like you need to like be super athletic. And I don’t know. All my like key friends. You

 

Ariel Hoffman  32:43

need to be dramatic to be on reality TV and I’m not. I’m actually quite shy. I’m I’m naturally shy. I’m I’m more extroverted now, but I don’t love showcasing my entire life. And I also I’m not that dramatic.

 

Emily Merrell  33:03

You didn’t want to be an actress. I feel like people who want to be an actress, like a gateway

 

Ariel Hoffman  33:08

into acting. Agreed. Right? Or like, self promotion of some sort. But I think I know, I know three people who have been on it. Okay. Perfect.

 

Emily Merrell  33:21

sidebar on that one later. book are you reading or, or do you recommend reading? Okay, that’s

 

Ariel Hoffman  33:29

hard because I literally when I do get to reading I read a page a night. But there is this series that I’m hooked on because I want to escape. I need like escape fiction. It was recommended to me it’s a series The first one is called the city of brass. And it’s quite good. And I’m almost done with that one. I’m about to start the second book but it’s like a city of brass kingdom of copper. There’s one more after that. Something some other metal

 

Emily Merrell  34:08

steel. Village of steel something something going on. Oh, I love that. I haven’t heard that. Yeah. This is a big one. What is your favorite emoji? Oh

 

Ariel Hoffman  34:28

I feel like I should look up all my text messages. Um, I would say the the wink. Or the one with the tongue sticking out with like the eye is like like that.

 

Emily Merrell  34:44

I know exactly.

 

34:46

You all can see it. You can all see what I’m talking about. Beautiful visual there. And then my

 

Emily Merrell  34:52

final question for you is Who inspired you or gave you permission to do the thing you wanted to do with your way.

 

Anna Bohnengel  35:03

Still working on that one. Um, I would say, Well, Sean T, I’ll give him a lot of credit, because he sparked that, that light in me to get into like health and wellness. Yeah. And then other than that, though, honestly, myself, I’m going to say that

 

Emily Merrell  35:26

you had opportunities to quit and you Yeah,

 

Ariel Hoffman  35:29

going. And I think, you know, motherhood is a wild journey. And I don’t know about you, but it definitely threw me for an identity crisis that I’m still processing. But yeah, I would say like, you have to find it within you to, to figure out what that is, and always experiment. You know,

 

Emily Merrell  35:57

I think there’s so many different versions of us that will be born throughout this this lifetime. And I love I love your journey, and I love where you’re at, and I love your candidness and honesty. And, Arielle, thank you so much for sharing your story with us today.

 

Ariel Hoffman  36:14

Thank you, Emily. It was such a pleasure and I’m so honored.

 

Emily Merrell  36:19

We could have had nine more minutes. And listeners if you liked today’s episode, please give us five stars share with friends. We’ll see you the next time